Stream: friends

Topic: 98: Just on the rocks

Logbot (Jun 20 2025 at 21:51):

Jerod tells Adam about bad he hates the taste of Gin, sips on some Generative A Rye (on the rocks), they open the comments section for a bit, and land the plane talking about being alone, naked, and afraid. :link: https://changelog.am/98

Ash (Jun 22 2025 at 18:00):

Regarding Claude Code payment, unless I'm missing something, I'm able to use Claude Code with just the pro subscription. What happened to me was:

1. Tried out CC without the subscription, prompted to add money on Anthropic's console
2. Added $5, blew threw that in like 5 minutes
3. Decided to get the pro subscription ($20/mo)
4. Reinitialize the configuration on CC, selected the option to use my subscription for costs
5. Using CC without any limits!

When I run /cost in CC, I get:
"With your Claude Pro subscription, no need to monitor cost — your subscription includes Claude Code usage" so my assumption is there is no additional costs.

Jerod Santo (Jun 22 2025 at 22:31):

Hmm I haven’t been so fortunate maybe I need to reinitialize or something. Will report back…

Lars Wikman (Jun 23 2025 at 14:36):

No chapter image for the gin tasting face Jerod made? I like a gin but I definitely know why gin would ellicit that reaction :D

Scott Abbey (Jun 23 2025 at 15:10):

I'm with you Jerod. Gin tastes like you're sipping on Pinesol. And yes, I've had good gin. It doesn't matter. It all tastes like greater or lesser degrees of Pinesol to me.

Jerod Santo (Jun 23 2025 at 17:29):

No chapter image but full video should be posted soon

Tim Uckun (Jun 26 2025 at 03:21):

To clear the record. I live in new Zealand. I have spent a quite a bit off time in Australia and found Australians to be lovely people.

If you guys ever make it here there are local whiskey makers you can try.

Jerod Santo (Jun 26 2025 at 09:58):

I knew it was one or the other

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:00):

After listening to both the Adventures in babysitting agents and this, I was surprised to not hear much about Augment code (a sponsor). I have been using that for 3 months now after hearing the ads on the change log. Its $30/m and I have not hit a limit yet. If you want to try out something the first month cost nothing. I was hooked. I spend more time thinking and planning features than I do coding. I haven't used the remote agents yet, I use the vscode agents on auto and let it do the work.

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:01):

It goes off and does the wrong thing sometimes, but I have learned that it like asking a genie for a wish and you just were not specific enough.

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:05):

I have a workspace with the front end and backend. I can ask it to make a new feature, describe the ui and some details about a new api and it will change both projects in one prompt.

Don MacKinnon (Jul 02 2025 at 15:13):

Eric Goeken said:

After listening to both the Adventures in babysitting agents and this, I was surprised to not hear much about Augment code (a sponsor). I have been using that for 3 months now after hearing the ads on the change log. Its $30/m and I have not hit a limit yet. If you want to try out something that cost nothing. I was hooked. I spend more time thinking and planning features than I do coding. I haven't used the remote agents yet, I use the vscode agents on auto and let it do the work.

What models do they use? Someone else in the community recommended Tabnine so I was planning on giving that a spin over the weekend. I've been using Sourcegraph Cody to mixed success and now that they rug pulled I'm on the look out for something new, was even thinking about trying to run some local models via Ollama to see how that goes but the variety of models available to self-host are fewer. From looking at Augment Code's docs I'm intrigued. I've found for Typescript, PHP, etc most of the models do just fine but thus far for Rust none of them are good.

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:19):

I used Cody for a long time, just using the auto complete. I never liked how the chat could not work across files. Maybe they fixed that.

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:19):

I don't know what model. It just works.... let me check

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:21):

From VS code I don't see anything to change models, or what the model is

Eric Goeken (Jul 02 2025 at 15:34):

I haven't tried rust. If you have good code in the project to emulate I bet it will figure it out. I was working in a really old project the other day and I didn't like what it was doing. I realized it was replicating the style from other parts of the code. I had to tell it a few times to change style and then it got better. I learned there is a md file where it will save instructions like that. I refined what it took notes on and what it generates matches what I expect.

Don MacKinnon (Jul 02 2025 at 16:45):

Ah nice. I'll def give it a try

Tim Uckun (Jul 02 2025 at 22:04):

I was hoping llms would be a way to quick and easy way to learn new languages but hearing how they don't do well in Rust and knowing how poorly they do in go that's been shut down.

Maybe the next iteration.

Don MacKinnon (Jul 03 2025 at 04:32):

Yeah I believe they are currently strongest at JS/TS and Python because that's the largest amount of code that is available on Github for training data. For newer and less popular languages there is less training data for it to pull from

Dustin (Jul 03 2025 at 12:36):

Not with agents, but I’ve had decent success prompting Claude 3.7 sonnet and Gemini 2.5 Pro for rust code

Don MacKinnon (Jul 04 2025 at 23:06):

Claud Sonnet 4.0 and 3.7 couldn't code its way out of a wet paper sack for me, struggled pretty hard with with multi-threaded memory management and traits.

valon-loshaj (Jul 05 2025 at 13:52):

in defense of claude, multi-threaded processing is super challenging for like 99% of devs :sweat_smile:

maybe youre onto something, this could be our human moat!

Ron Waldon-Howe (Jul 05 2025 at 22:45):

valon-loshaj said:

in defense of claude, multi-threaded processing is super challenging for like 99% of devs :sweat_smile:

This is literally the reason Rust exists: fearless concurrency :) :crab:

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