Logbot (Dec 06 2024 at 23:11): Logbot (Dec 06 2024 at 23:11):Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert join Adam and Jerod for a ShopTalk & Friends conversation on the viability of the web, making content, ads to support that content, Codepen's future plans, books, side quests, and social networks devaluing links. :link: https://changelog.com/friends/72
| Ch | Start | Title | Runs |
|---|---|---|---|
| 01 | 00:00 | Let's talk! | 00:44 |
| 02 | 00:44 | Sponsor: Sentry | 02:00 |
| 03 | 02:47 | Was that a websocket? | 01:34 |
| 04 | 04:22 | Does Codepen have sponsors? | 01:35 |
| 05 | 05:57 | Tasteful well placed ads | 02:14 |
| 06 | 08:11 | Secret Dave dream | 00:58 |
| 07 | 09:08 | Devs who don't dev | 03:52 |
| 08 | 13:01 | Web component land | 08:42 |
| 09 | 21:42 | Humble websites and HN | 01:56 |
| 10 | 23:39 | Is the web a viable platform? | 07:08 |
| 11 | 30:47 | Devaluing links | 02:44 |
| 12 | 33:31 | Attacking what's good abou tthe web | 02:25 |
| 13 | 35:57 | Sponsor: Fly.io | 02:23 |
| 14 | 38:20 | Sponsor: Coder.com | 02:07 |
| 15 | 40:27 | Play to the strengths of linking | 03:27 |
| 16 | 43:54 | Codepen 2.0?! | 06:26 |
| 17 | 50:20 | Codepen World's Fair | 05:07 |
| 18 | 55:27 | Always be recording (ABR) | 02:46 |
| 19 | 58:13 | Chris likes our ad format | 02:31 |
| 20 | 1:00:43 | Win win win | 02:05 |
| 21 | 1:02:48 | Selling it for us | 04:52 |
| 22 | 1:07:40 | Sponsor: AssemblyAI | 01:29 |
| 23 | 1:09:09 | ShopTalk ambitions | 04:54 |
| 24 | 1:14:03 | Niche app builders | 02:47 |
| 25 | 1:16:50 | Tech adjacent content | 04:27 |
| 26 | 1:21:18 | Chef Frank Proto coming soon | 02:57 |
| 27 | 1:24:15 | David Goggins soon? | 01:19 |
| 28 | 1:25:34 | Did you read ALL these books? | 01:02 |
| 29 | 1:26:35 | SO many dirty dishes | 02:21 |
| 30 | 1:28:56 | Trash on the counter (Adam sings) | 01:29 |
| 31 | 1:30:25 | The long slow decline | 00:34 |
| 32 | 1:30:58 | Closing thoughts and stuff | 02:21 |
| 33 | 1:33:20 | ++ Teaser | 00:53 |
Matthew Sanabria (Dec 07 2024 at 15:30):Typo on Chapter 12's title.
Sukhdeep Brar (Dec 10 2024 at 00:54):The, almost, tangent in the ++ content about prioritizing and time would be a topic I would love to hear more about. It's a tough problem in software to balance what can be done, what should be done, and what you want to do :stuck_out_tongue_wink:
Dustin (Dec 10 2024 at 07:53):This was such a fun episode
Matthias Schippling (Dec 14 2024 at 13:55):I was very pleasantly surprised to hear "Cracking the Cryptic" mentioned in the show. 4 years ago this video showed up in my Youtube feed. It's one of my favorites and I've been a fan ever since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKf9aUIxdb4, although I don't watch them regularly.
I think it's easy to draw parallels to software engineering, where you sometimes encounter really difficult problems and struggle to find even where to start, but when you get into a flow state suddenly everything clicks into place and you solve the issue.
Philip Durbin (Apr 29 2025 at 09:52):It was fun hearing you tell Chris and Dave about Zulip. In Shoptalk 662 they brought up Changelog's use of Zulip while talking about Circle. They discussed the virtues of having a searchable archive of answers, which Zulip provides.
Jerod Santo (Apr 29 2025 at 18:52):Very cool! I'm excited to hear their thoughts on Circle (which I haven't checked out at all yet)
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