Stream: friends

Topic: 67: Ten years of freeCodeCamp


view this post on Zulip Logbot (Oct 25 2024 at 16:15):

At the tail end of 2019, we got together with Quincy Larson to celebrate ten years of Changelog & five years of freeCodeCamp by recording back-to-back episodes on each other's pods. Can you believe it's now five years later and we're all still here doing our thing?! Let's learn what Quincy and the amazing community at freeCodeCamp have been up to!

:link: https://changelog.com/friends/67

view this post on Zulip Jerod Santo (Oct 25 2024 at 16:38):

Would it be useful to add a table with the chapters to these announcement posts? Something like:

Chapters:

# Start Title Runs
01 00:00 Your favorite ever show 01:25
02 01:25 Let's talk! 00:38
03 02:03 Sponsor: Fly.io 02:45
04 04:51 Birthdays & Friends 00:51
05 05:42 A vision realized? 04:38
06 10:20 Just getting started 05:42
07 16:03 Deciding what to work on 02:38
08 18:41 The liberty hook 05:10
09 23:51 A bad precedent 01:25
10 25:17 Sponsor: Speakeasy 00:53
11 26:10 The job market 08:29
12 34:39 Entrepreneurship 07:00
13 41:39 Quincy has a book?! 04:42
14 46:21 Sponsor: AssemblyAI 02:17
15 48:38 Sponsor: Wix Studio 00:54
16 49:32 Curriculum talk 10:51
17 1:00:24 Going low-level 03:52
18 1:04:15 Obsessed with learning 02:33
19 1:06:48 Teaching English 02:43
20 1:09:31 Teaching from our transcripts 05:20
21 1:14:52 Finding the right people 04:54
22 1:19:46 Still being ignored (so far) 03:03
23 1:22:49 freeCodeCamp esports! 02:35
24 1:25:24 Learn to Code RPG 02:34
25 1:27:58 The future of education 07:51
26 1:35:50 Quincy on the bass! 01:44
27 1:37:33 Adam's challenge 02:55
28 1:40:28 Bye, friends 00:32
29 1:41:01 Next week on The Changelog 01:50

(All of the start, chapter links, etc. times would be linked. Just doing this by hand for an example)

view this post on Zulip James Thurley (Oct 25 2024 at 16:51):

I like it. For the feeds which I don't listen to by default I can get a better idea of whether I want to try the individual episode.

view this post on Zulip Tim Uckun (Oct 28 2024 at 04:23):

Nice episode. Quincy is doing amazing things.

I do hate the fact that Elon's "college is useless" statement has caught on so strongly in American culture though. I am sure he insists that the people he hires on SpaceX or his right wing PACs or whatever else he is up to have degrees. He is just pandering to the MAGA crowd who regularly rails against the "educated elite".

view this post on Zulip Jerod Santo (Oct 28 2024 at 10:03):

The American sentiment that college isn’t worth it precedes Elon Musk’s political rise.

view this post on Zulip Daniel Buckmaster (Oct 28 2024 at 10:11):

See: Thiel Fellowship!

view this post on Zulip Andrei Jiroh Halili (Oct 28 2024 at 13:42):

As a Hack Clubber: :eyes:

view this post on Zulip Lars Ellingsen (Oct 28 2024 at 15:15):

I liked the idea of a free certification I could go and get. But... putting it behind 3000 hours of content means that almost no employed professionals will get it. This feels counterproductive.

If I studied 2h a day, 300 days a year, it would still take me _five years_ to get it. That's impossible anyways with my family and job, and I'm sure many others are in that situation. If it's only new grads or self taught folks who aren't yet employed who have the cert, I feel like it might not mean as much to employers.

A certification like PMP from the PMI (mentioned in the episode) is largely focused on hands-on work at a job. I wonder if we could do something similar....

view this post on Zulip Tim Uckun (Oct 28 2024 at 21:36):

@Jerod Santo When I was growing up everybody was encouraged to go to college. It was seen as a necessary requirement for getting a decent job. I did go and drop out, then I went back and dropped out again because it wasn't for me. Not having a degree meant that I could not get a lot of jobs so I ended up going the enterpreneur route which did work out for me but I don't think it's for everybody.

During my time in school the things I valued most were not related to computers (my major) but the science and literature and philosophy I was exposed to and of course hanging out with poetry majors and architecture students and physics and mathematics majors. My favorite teacher was my abstract algebra teacher and I can honestly say my mind was blown by that class. Something I have never and will never use in real life but still expanded my mind more than all the chemicals people experiment with.

view this post on Zulip matt wilkie (Oct 31 2024 at 04:53):

Great idea! i just used it to relocate my new favourite quote:

"Art is how you decorate space, music is how you decorate time" --Jean Paul Bas---t

(couldn't make out last name)
https://changelog.com/friends/67#t=5750

view this post on Zulip Jerod Santo (Oct 31 2024 at 13:40):

Yeah that's a great quote. A quick web search couldn't land me on the original source. Maybe someone else can find it?

view this post on Zulip Jerod Santo (Oct 31 2024 at 13:42):

I think Quincy said "Jean Paul Basquiat" but that's not a person, I don't think. He probably meant to say: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Basquiat


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