Jerod Santo (Dec 05 2024 at 22:35): Jerod Santo (Dec 05 2024 at 22:35):Hello, friends!
@Adam Stacoviak and I decided to make some big changes in the new year that will probably come as a surprise. This is a bittersweet announcement for sure, but we truly believe it'll be bitter at first but much more sweet in the long-run.
Please read this post when you have some spare time and share your reactions/questions here or in the post's comments:
https://changelog.com/posts/a-new-era-for-the-changelog-podcast-universe
We will certainly be discussing this in more detail on the next Kaizen episode as well as on the finale episodes coming this month. :green_heart::green_heart::green_heart:
Daniel Buckmaster (Dec 06 2024 at 01:27):This is huge! I trust you guys to do a great job. I hope the extended Changelog family on the topic-specific shows we love are coming along for the ride :pray:
Ron Waldon-Howe (Dec 06 2024 at 01:51):Eek, ShipIt is on Substack, isn't that a Nazi bar given that they refuse to moderate Nazi content?
Why not open-source equivalents like https://write.as/ or https://ghost.org/ or something?
Ron Waldon-Howe (Dec 06 2024 at 01:51):https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/21/24011232/substack-nazi-moderation-demonetization-hamish-mckenzie
Ron Waldon-Howe (Dec 06 2024 at 01:53):Otherwise, the structural changes are fascinating
I'm unfortunately a month behind on episodes, but I'm keen to catch up and experience the improvements in the new format, yay!
Lars Ellingsen (Dec 06 2024 at 02:08):Any idea how Changelog++ memberships will have an impact? Are those only going to affect the core shows, or affiliated ones too?
Jamie Tanna (Dec 06 2024 at 11:27):Could this get also posted onto the site's top-level feed ie https://changelog.com/ ? Didn't see this post in my RSS feed, only spotted it via Justin's BlueSky post
Jerod Santo (Dec 06 2024 at 13:44):Lars Ellingsen said:
Any idea how Changelog++ memberships will have an impact?
In the short-term, ++ will apply/support The Changelog only. We may evolve it to include CPU pods as well, but it's all very nascent at the moment.
@Jamie Tanna we're going to discuss this on Kaizen, on every individual podcast's finale episodes, cover it in News, etc.
Pontus Ullgren (Dec 06 2024 at 16:36):Yeah this is really big change and while the knee jerk reaction is "Nooooo! How can you do this to me!" :crying_cat: I'm sure it will be good in the end. :green_heart:
I have really liked having access to all the content from one "firehose" feed, from a source I could trust with my contact details.
Now I will have to go out and share my details with different platforms and possibly get more subscriptions. I guess it is not just about the money, but I would be happier to pay more to one source than have to sign up for more accounts. In the end I will probably drop one or more of the podcasts that I'm 100% interested in all the time. Still with the master feed it was educational and fun to get them "in my earholes" anyway and it broaden my horizon.
Andrew O'Brien (Dec 06 2024 at 17:59):Oh, that's an ominous title after a year of "A Message to Our Community about the Future of [Corporate Open Source Project We All Rely On But Don't Pay For]" news...
I guess I'm not understanding what the functional difference between status quo and CPU.fm will be and how that lightens the production load? Are the spin-off shows responsible for their own audio production? Hosting? Ad sales? Community engagement tools? What level of support will they still get from the network?
Jerod Santo (Dec 06 2024 at 19:28):Yes the spinoffs are all entirely independent podcasts that we don’t own/operate
Jerod Santo (Dec 06 2024 at 19:28):Support will be ad sales, promotion, collabs, aggregation
Tim Uckun (Dec 06 2024 at 20:42):For those interested in AI I would reccomend Latent Space podcast. The only other podcast on the chopping block I listen to is gotime but only because I enjoy the banter when Matt is on. Other times it's less enjoyable to me. I might not even look for an alternative as I don't code in Go anymore even though I am peripherally interested in the language.
BTW totally unrelated but I would highly recommend the Mindscape podcast by the physicist and philosopher Dr. Sean Carrol. IMHO it's the best podcast out there. Diverse topics, top notch guests, highly intellectual conversations and monthly AMAs where the professor answers all questions asked by patreon supporters.
Adam Stacoviak (Dec 06 2024 at 20:46):I loved his lecture on time that's on Audible.
Jerod Santo (Dec 06 2024 at 21:08):@Tim Uckun you can look forward to plenty more from Mat on upcoming Changelog & Friends episodes :sunglasses:
Andrew O'Brien (Dec 06 2024 at 21:24):Jerod Santo said:
Yes the spinoffs are all entirely independent podcasts that we don’t own/operate
Support will be ad sales, promotion, collabs, aggregation
So, sounds like Maximum Fun?
(Which I think is a pretty good model of a podcast network, so I’m saying that as a positive comparison.)
Adam Stacoviak (Dec 07 2024 at 00:02):It’s a very versatile model with so much possibility and potential.
Matthew Sanabria (Dec 07 2024 at 15:40):Congratulations Adam and Jerod! I know we spoke about this in person a few weeks ago but nice to see the announcement and the vision for CPU.fm.
It's a healthy thing when a company refocuses on its main thing rather than trying to do too much and potentially lose quality. Thank you for letting people spin off the podcasts. I'll be on fallthrough.fm with Kris and Ian.
Godspeed!
Hal Blackburn (Dec 08 2024 at 11:51):This sounds like a good move to me, I like the idea of focussing in on the core Changelog experience.
I've occasionally wondered if you guys could turn the podcasting infrastructure you've created into a service for other podcasts, both to earn some extra money from it, and benefit other podcasters. Could be quite a nice open-source business and make good use of all the attention to detail that goes into your podcasting infrastructure. Reading between the lines, it sounds like CPU could be that kind of thing.
Justin Garrison (Dec 08 2024 at 19:27):Ron Waldon-Howe said:
Eek, ShipIt is on Substack, isn't that a Nazi bar given that they refuse to moderate Nazi content?
Why not open-source equivalents like https://write.as/ or https://ghost.org/ or something?
I totally hear you about the concerns. Substack isn’t going to be our permanent home and I’ll probably shut it down once we get the permanent page set up. I just wanted some way to collect email signups when the announcement went out so we could email people once the site and feeds are ready.
we should have that sometime next week
Jamie Tanna (Dec 08 2024 at 21:51):Ended up writing some thoughts in medium-form at https://www.jvt.me/posts/2024/12/08/changelog-cpu/ but TL;DR is hopeful, but a little apprehensive of change!
Adam Stacoviak (Dec 09 2024 at 01:26):I love this. I think what we’re doing with CPU will be an amazing thing in the long run. Thank you for listening and trusting us all these years. We don’t take that loyalty and commitment lightly. We’re working hard to make sure we’ve got the main thing on lock, and a bright future planned for CPU.fm.
Sukhdeep Brar (Dec 09 2024 at 03:56):I'm excited that the team will be able to focus on the Changelog! It's already great. Can't wait to see Adam and Jerod improve it in ways I can't even imagine.
Like others have mentioned, not having the master feed will be a loss. I don't think I would normally be a subscriber to JS Party, but having it show up in the master gives me a good reason to listen to episodes here and there.
Excited for the change! Kaizen!
Jerod Santo (Dec 09 2024 at 15:10):@Jamie Tanna I appreciate you taking time to write up your thoughts. Change is hard! We're all a little apprehensive, but the future is bright. (8 years, wow!)
@Sukhdeep Brar our master feed would effectively turn in to The Changelog (meaning it'll be redundant/useless), but we'll probably redirect it to the upcoming CPU feed, which will give you that content diversity back (and then some).
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