We're joined by Zipline cofounder / CTO, Keenan Wyrobek. Zipline is on a mission to build the world’s first logistics system that serves all people equally via their fleet of autonomous drones that started in Africa delivering medical supplies and can now deliver packages (up to 8 lbs) directly to your door. They've solved a lot of gnarly technical and regulatory challenges along the way. We go deep with Keenan. We hope you'll find this one fascinating. :link: https://changelog.fm/670
| Ch | Start | Title | Runs |
|---|---|---|---|
| 01 | 00:00 | Welcome to The Changelog | 01:02 |
| 02 | 01:02 | Sponsor: Tiger Data | 01:39 |
| 03 | 02:42 | Start the show! | 01:04 |
| 04 | 03:46 | It all starts in Rwanda | 03:11 |
| 05 | 06:57 | From medical to consumer | 02:16 |
| 06 | 09:13 | Env concerns | 00:54 |
| 07 | 10:07 | Drone design | 02:26 |
| 08 | 12:33 | Space inspiration | 01:26 |
| 09 | 13:59 | Drones' OS | 01:28 |
| 10 | 15:27 | Software updates | 01:46 |
| 11 | 17:13 | Novel problems | 02:23 |
| 12 | 19:36 | The drone cloud | 02:19 |
| 13 | 21:55 | Sponsor: Depot | 02:50 |
| 14 | 24:45 | Regulations | 12:57 |
| 15 | 37:42 | Observability | 02:34 |
| 16 | 40:16 | Logging a tornado | 01:41 |
| 17 | 41:57 | Wind limits | 01:40 |
| 18 | 43:37 | That wing! | 01:42 |
| 19 | 45:19 | Range anxiety | 02:07 |
| 20 | 47:26 | Range vs cost | 02:15 |
| 21 | 49:40 | Sponsor: Augment Code | 02:55 |
| 22 | 52:35 | Sponsor: Framer | 01:14 |
| 23 | 53:49 | Supporting the UX | 02:22 |
| 24 | 56:11 | Integrations | 01:34 |
| 25 | 57:45 | Fun features | 02:38 |
| 26 | 1:00:23 | All day / night | 04:11 |
| 27 | 1:04:34 | Zip at scale | 04:49 |
| 28 | 1:09:22 | Heavier packages | 02:25 |
| 29 | 1:11:48 | Competition | 00:59 |
| 30 | 1:12:47 | What's next | 00:49 |
| 31 | 1:13:36 | Next city (Omaha!) | 01:11 |
| 32 | 1:14:47 | Big tech problems | 02:59 |
| 33 | 1:17:47 | Manual override | 04:48 |
| 34 | 1:22:35 | The tech stack | 02:38 |
| 35 | 1:25:13 | Open orchestration | 06:35 |
| 36 | 1:31:48 | Wrapping up | 00:58 |
| 37 | 1:32:46 | Closing thoughts | 01:17 |
That was awesome. I saw a video about their work in Rwanda a while ago. Cool to hear about their next steps.
Started playing ARC Raider just before listing to this episode. The part about making the drones quieter does not sound that good of an idea :thinking:
@Jerod Santo thought of you when I saw the news that Zipline is coming to Phoenix. :fingers_crossed: Oklahoma is next
https://www.reddit.com/r/phoenix/s/Jgfe9ls3dA
I kept expecting the word "swarm" to be mentioned, wasn't there an earlier episode about that?
I was just looking at trying to get Chipotle delivered a very short distance and watched the price double… can’t wait for this to come to California
DoorDash has their robot fleet in Phoenix as well. Must be a good city for testing autonomous delivery tech
Last updated: Feb 17 2026 at 17:33 UTC